THE SPIRIT REALM:
Healing that is of God, and Healing that is Not.
Some doubt that Jesus is God, even though they witness miracles, often because sometimes witches, warlocks, and other seemingly normal people can walk in miracles and or healings to some extent also. For example, there is a Chinese hospital where certain people chant healing prayers over sick people, and they do see some decent results. While in Central America, I’ve heard stories of witches that had the power to heal. These things sometimes bring confusion to people, sometimes even Christians, that don’t have any spiritual discernment. This article will bring clarity about this.
THE WITCH FROM SENSENTI:
For example, there was a well-known witch that lived in Sensenti, Honduras, that had the power to heal, and presidents from Honduras, Guatemala, Ecuador, El Salvador and Nicaragua had consulted with her. After somebody was healed, she would say, “Give me money, or I’ll allow the thing to come back upon you.” This may not sound too much different than some modern faith healers today, but it is the spirit behind the healing that makes the difference. Anyway, this witch in Sensenti was warned twice by two different prophets of God to repent, but she did not. The 3rd prophet told her to repent, and that if she did not repent within 30 days, she would die. She did not, and she died on the 30th day, in 2007, and her younger boyfriend became mentally ill very soon after that. I had friends that told me I needed to go to Sensenti, but I got the “valley” of Sensenti confused with the “town” of Sensenti, and I ended up going to the town of Ocotopeque several times over the next few years. Ocotopeque was a good 2 ½ hours further down the road from the city of San Pedro Sula, located in the same “valley” of Sensenti. When I realized people were coming all the way from Sensenti the “town” to Ocotopeque to be healed, I finally figured it out that I was in the wrong area. I then went to Sensenti the “town” with my interpreter. The bus let us off on the main road, and we hitch-hiked another 2 miles to the village and prayed for a few people that got healed at the municipal building. One of the men that was there then took us to a sick family in the middle of town. That was the start of one of the best healing revivals I had ever done, and I wasn’t even in a church. The family members got healed, and they told the neighbors, which told their neighbors, etc. For the next 2 hours I had a steady flow of people to pray for, stopping only for a short snack the neighbors made for us. There was no big long line, but by the time I got done praying for one or two, another one or two would arrive in perfect timing. There is a more complete diary of what happened this day on the “Missions” page, under the March 2010 Trip to Honduras, in the right column, and you can go to the exact day if you scroll down just past “Week 3, to “Tuesday, April 6”.
Evil spirits and witches work together
Sensenti was infested with sickness because that witch had given that area over to the devil. That was the first time I had witnessed a problem/pain in somebody’s body, that when I prayed, it would move to a different area of the body, and sometimes it would even jump into a different person. Then I remembered what Jesus said in Mat 12:28-29 “But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. (29) Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.” That fixed it. When I “bound the strong man of the house”, I could then cast the devils out and the person was healed, and the spirit did not jump into another person. During our stay there, with my interpreter, I went door to door and prayed for many people, being surprised at the great percentage that needed a healing. This experience shows me how an evil spirit such as witchcraft can breed sicknesses and pains in an area. I suspect that when the witch healed people, the demon behind the sickness or pain would merely move to another person. That is one of the reasons that area was so infested with physical problems/pains/sicknesses.
HOW TO TELL if a MAN IS of GOD or NOT of God? The following scriptures show how to easily recognize whether somebody that is walking in healing is of God, or not of God:
Mat 10:32 “Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven”. (See also Luke 12:8)
Rom 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
1Jn 4:15 “Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.”
2Jn 1:7 “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.”
IS the SPIRIT of GOD or NOT of GOD?
1Jn 4:2-3 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
(3) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
CAN a MAN WALK in HEALING & NOT BE OF GOD? Yes, as this scripture says:
Mat 7:21-23 “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? (23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Talking about the last days, Jesus said in Mat 24:24 “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” (False prophets will point to a false christ. Jesus told us how He will return in the clouds in Matthew chapter 24, so we shouldn't be confused about who the real Christ is.)
DEMONS CAN BRING HEALING:
For example, I met a young man who’s name I won’t divulge, now. His first initial is C. When I met C, he gave me Biblical insights about demonic things in the Bible that I had never noticed before. He had heard of me, and he was drawn to me, and we talked at length, and he had me pray for him for deliverance. He had the ability to see in the spirit realm, but the problem was, he was seeing into the spirit realm in this earth only. He would see so often, and so much, it was a hindrance to him. If he so much as looked at a spirit, the spirit would know that he could see them, and try to get him to do things. That is why he had long hair that came down over his eyes, so that if he glanced at one out of the corner of his eye, they wouldn’t notice him looking at them. The spirit people he would see looked just like normal people, except they were a little darker, and kind of “see thru” semi-transparent, often wearing medieval clothes, and maybe slightly more pale skin. I thought this was a wonderful gift to be able to see in the spirit like that, but he told me otherwise. He continued to describe them to me, “Some were tall, some short, sometimes one would have a pig head, or snake eyes or some other weirdness. Often they would look sort of normal, with a normal expression on their face, but at the mention of Jesus, their countenance would change and they would look mean or mad.”
His story was so interesting, I had to hear it a second time and take notes.
He began his story, “My great, great grandparents were Pagans, and they were from Ireland when Ireland was a very poor country,” he said. “The devil came to my great, great grandma and told her he would make her wealthy. She sold her soul to the devil, and he gave her the power to heal,” he continued. “People would be deathly sick, and they would pay large amounts of money to see her. They would go into a room and lock the door. When the visitors came out, they would be healed, but my great, great grandma would be sicker.” I thought this was interesting, in that he told me that these relatives could heal people, but yet the relatives themselves got sicker, and suffered from thing like acute arthritis, and died a fairly early death. From my experience and understanding, spirits that cause sicknesses and problems do not want to be cast out. Witches will often merely transfer the sickness/demon to another person, sometimes even to themselves, unawares.
This “family” spirit moved on down to the next generation. “My great grandmother sold her soul also,” he continued. “She would do things out of the ordinary, like talk to people that weren’t there. Sometimes doors would open or a chair would move. She also had the power to heal.”
Likewise, this demonic power was passed on down to his grandmother, who was also a psychic. His grandfather told him that when people were in the room getting healed, sometimes, people outside the room could hear additional voices coming from inside the room besides the ones that were in there.
My friend “C” started seeing in the spirit when he was about 9 or 10 years old. When he first started to see them, if he would walk toward them, they would disappear. As he grew older, he could see more clearly, and more often. Apparently he had a “familiar” spirit. The word “familiar” comes from the word “family”. “Family” in Spanish is “familiar”. The Bible says a lot about “familiar spirits”. See some of the scriptures, as follows:
Lev 19:31 “Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.”
Lev 20:6 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.
Lev 20:27 “A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.”
Deu 18:10-11 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, (11) Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
There are many more scriptures concerning “familiar spirits”.
1 Sam 28:3, 7, 8 & 9 concern King Saul seeking guidance from the woman (witch) at Endor. Other scriptures include 2 Kings 21:6 & 23:4, 1 Chronicles 10:13, 2 Chronicles 33:6, Isaiah 8:19, 19:3 & 29:4.
Familiar spirits are spirits that roam this earth. People that are not saved, when they die, their spirits stay here on earth until the judgement day, as confirmed by these scriptures:
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Notice that every eye shall see Him, including those that pierced Him. In other words, the soldiers that crucified Jesus and then later died back in the first century will still be on the earth as spirits, and they will see Him when He comes. It also says they shall wail because of Him. Why? Because they know they are not saved, and judgement is coming according to these scripture from Revelation:
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Rev 20:12-15 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. (13) And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. (14) And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
(15) And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Earthly spirits desire to have a body.
They long for those physical manifestations that we have. This is why they possess people. There are three areas of possession, as follows:
1) Pre-Possession. We attract evil spirits which may want to hang around and try to influence us when we use Wigi boards, Tarot cards and the like.
2) Attachment Possession: The person still has a free will, and the demons do not yet have full possession, but they follow you, and their influence is much stronger.
3) Possession of Physical Body: The person feels like they are trapped in a dark room, not knowing where to go. When confronted by a Christian, they may seem angry and confused, and their speech may get slower and slurred, with difficulty in speaking. I personally have only seen this one time.
Seeing and Traveling in the Spirit:
My pastor, Donald Schluter, also sees in the Spirit, but it is completely different than the way my friend “C” sees. Pastor Donald sees in ways that are similar to the way other Christians “see in the Spirit”. Pastor Don sees Angels, and has seen Jesus, Melchizedek, the Spirit of Wisdom, the Council of 70, the Ancient Ones, & others. The “Ancient Ones” is just a name that Donald sometimes calls them. Sometimes he calls them the Hooded Ones. They sometimes show up in a small group, and they wear robes with hoods, and their faces are not clear, like in a shadow. Sometimes they just show up in a church meeting and observe what is going on. Sometimes they will talk among themselves. Donald has traveled to many different Heavenly places in the Spirit and experienced many things. I know of other people that see, and also travel in the Spirit, either to Heavenly places, or sometimes a different area on earth. This is scriptural, for example, Peter was caught away in the Spirit after baptizing the Ethiopian Eunuch: Act 8:39-40 “And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. (40) But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.
The difference between Heavenly beings and earthly beings:
Heavenly beings/angels/saints have a body.
Earthly spirits and demons do not, and desire to dwell in an earthly body, or otherwise experience physical senses. As far as I know, the earthly spirits & demons have rejected Jesus, and having passed into the spirit realm, they know what the future holds for them. It seems as if they have contempt for Jesus, in that they had rejected Him when alive. The little games that they play are attempts to make a Christian backslide. Compulsive behaviours, such as sleeping too much, drinking too much, obsessive eating disorders and mental pain, torment or anger are usually caused by demons. These foul, dead spirits attempt to live in a body, which can cause sickness or pain. When they are cast out by a Christians, the angels that work on behalf of a Christian know where to send them. However, Mel Bond, who has a church near St. Louis, is a humble, knowledgeable, and tremendously gifted man of God that walks in healing on a regular basis. He is one of the few Christians I know that sees in the demonic spirit realm, although not clearly as my friend "C" does. Mr. Bond can see good enough to see the evil spirit on somebody that is bringing the physical problem before he tells it to leave. Most people either see in one or the other, but it is rare to find a person that can see in both. Mel Bond tells the spirit where to go when he casts it out. He tells it to leave this planet.
Learning to Walk in Healing:
How to make sure they stay healed
When the gift of healing first came upon me, I would do checkup on people I prayed for, to make sure they stayed healed. It seems as if about 25 to 30% of the people lost their healing. I prayed about this, and remembered what Jesus said when he cast a demon out of a boy. It seems as if the boy had epilepsy, in that Mark 9:20 says that “the spirit tare him, (the boy), and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.” In verse 22 the father said that sometime the spirit casts him into the water or the fire to kill him. However, verse 25 held the key I needed, where Jesus “rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, ‘Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.’” That was it! He told it to come out, and enter him no more. Could it be that simple? Yes! In my own words, I started telling the evil spirits to pack their bags and go, and not to return in Jesus’ name. That was it. Then, the people, almost every one, would then stay healed.
Before I learned this trick, I remember being in a church in Murphysboro, IL, when something weird happened. I was playing guitar in the church for a gospel group from Oklahoma. The leader of the gospel group preached and then asked me to help pray for the sick. As we faced the line of people that came up, he said, “I’ll take this half, you take that half.” He started in the middle and worked to his right. I went to the far left and also worked to my right towards the middle. I would ask them where the pain was before I prayed. I got in trouble for two things. About the 4th person I prayed for was a woman with extremely severe stomach pain, and she said the doctors didn’t know what it was, and nothing they did helped. Usually women have pains in the fallopian tubes, or an organ that is slightly to the side, but this pain was in the exact middle of her abdomen. I knew it had to be a demon. I cast it out and she was immediately healed. What I didn’t know, is that it went into a young man behind me on the platform, who was from Oklahoma. I learned later, that he had felt the same pain in his stomach all of a sudden, and started praying in tongues very fervently until it had finally left. The leader of the group later rebuked me, and said that if I was a real man of God that would not have happened. The other thing that got me in trouble was that I was only supposed to pray for my half of the people in the healing line. Everybody I prayed for got healed. When I got to the middle, I merely asked, “Is your pain gone?” Nobody on the leader’s half got healed, so I merely did follow up, and made sure everybody got healed. That was the real problem. The leader of the group was jealous in that nobody got healed that he prayed for, and everybody that I prayed for got healed, including the ones that he had already prayed for. I didn’t mean to make him look bad. However, God’s angels have not let the same thing happen again, praise God. When the demons/sicknesses go, they have never again gone into another person that I know of in the last 12 years. If I'm concerned about it, I sometimes tell the evil spirit where to go.
Where do Demons and Spirits Come from? What is the difference?
Spirits have little power, being the spirits of people that have died without Jesus. Demons, on the other hand, have more power. Learning from people that can see in the Spirit, and from teachers that study the Bible and the book of Enoch, basically, demons came from the Nephellim that have died, and the Nephellim were the offspring of the fallen angels from Genesis chapter 6. The Nephellim were the giants of old, some of which were the ancient Greek gods, being half human, and half Angelic. Let’s look at scripture from Genesis 6.
Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
(Etc)
Noah, in verse 9, being “perfect in his generations” means that he was genetically pure, and his lineage had not been corrupted by the fallen angels or fallen “sons of God”.
Some scholars seem to differ on just who these “Nephilim” are, and the word is generally interpreted as “giants” in most modern texts. Scholars often differ on just who the “fallen angels” or “sons of God” were. Seeing that the book of Enoch is mentioned in the Bible, I believe “fallen Angels” may be correct, per Enoch, not sure, but the Nephilim (giants) were the offspring, and when they died, that is where the “demons” came from. People that can see into this realm confirm that scholarly view.
If anybody is really interested, I might be able to put you in touch with my friend "C" who can see in this realm. You may be able to talk with him personally.
You can see people getting healed and view healing services and testimonies and Bible teachings on my youtube page at www.youtube.com/karljesusstein
Thanks for reading. Yours truly, Karl Stein
Karl Stein, 11853 Coyote Lane
Carbondale, IL 62901 618-985-2204
This page teaches how to discern true and false healers, how to tell the difference, and how witches get their power.
